This interview with the DoubleLine Fund founder is better than most because it lets him talk without a letting of editing or interruption. He has very entertaining and candid thoughts on where most investors went wrong in 2014 and the effects of Bill Gross’s leaving PIMCO.
People pull their money out of bonds when they should’ve been putting money into them. The greatest example is my hedge fund. Last December, I did a call for my LP, the hedge fund. And I told the investors that we are going to make money on bonds because rates are probably going to fall and I took the duration to 9. And an investor said, “What?” And I said, “Yeah, I think we’re going to make money on bonds. Profits.” And the guy says, “I don’t want to be long the 10-year (Treasury).” I remember one guy specifically said that. And I said, “we’re not long the 10-year. we own other things but we do have a duration that’s longer than the 10-year by a little bit.” And the guy said, “Forget it, I am pulling my money out.” And I said, “I thought you wanted me to manage your money with my highest-conviction best ideas?” And the investor said, “yeah, that’s true but not when your ideas are stupid?” That fund is going to be up potentially 20% this year. It’s already up 17 and change through November. So a third of the investors nearly pulled their money out because I allow redemptions on a 45-day notice at month end. And so 30% of investors pulled their money out. and They’re like: “We’re not interested in this bond thing. we hate interest rate risk.” I said, “Well, I am not going to be second guessed on this. You can second guess me on other strategies but not in my best ideas strategies.” I’m not going to be moved by the fact that you don’t like it.